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 04-06-2006, 10:46 Post: 127304
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Ken; How was Hawaii aquired? How was Washinton and Oregon aquired? Who was the majority of the population in the Louisiana territory? Did they have a say?

The native population was primarily agrarian from the gulf to southern Ontario. In the Canadian Shield and plains the population was never very large as it had to rely on hunting and gathering.

In 1500 before contact with europeans there were an estimated 3 million natives in North America (some estimates as high as 12 million). Most were killed by small pox etc. although a significant number were killed by war and extermination like in California. In 1900 cenus recorded about 300,000. We now have about 3 million again. More than 1/3 of which are in cold Canada.

In the first 100 years in the US there were some 1 million deaths due to war in North America, not counting native deaths which were not recorded. Some how I doubt that the native population killed 10,000 people a year in the small raids they did between tribes with spears and arrows even before decimation by disease.

I find it interesting that we focus on the violence of the tribes and forget the violence of this nation.

I was definately better to be of color than native in the US. At least you were worth something as a slave.






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Well McKinney appologised today as well she should. I will not be holding my breath to wait to here DeLay's appologies.

In reality we have no idea what the cultures of the interior natives were like in North America. If I went through your town and killed 9/10 of the old and young and you had no books how much knowledge would remain. Even the cultures that had writing like the Aztecs had their books distroyed.

Most of the eastern natives raise crops, corn, tobacco etc.






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A) How do you know what the societies were like before the european contacted the north american natives? For example they are still trying to decifer what the large mound building societies of the central US were like?
B) It is a pretty big brush you paint hundreds of tongues and nations with. How many have you lived and worked with? I admit my knowledge is limited I have only lived, schooled and worked with the Coast Salish, Cowichan, Squamish, Haida, Tsimshain, Gitzsan, Nuu-Chah-Nulth, Kwakwaka'wakw, Tlingit, Inuit, Iroquois and Algonkins. I can really only address a bit history of these tribes. Most of them were trading nations, only the Haida had a history of raiding like the vikings. A culture of which you and I are likely bred from.

I never said that there was not native conflict. I am just not sure the first two American centuries have been less bloody. Nor was it purely defensive. Certainly not in the Indian wars, Civil War and "Remember the Maine".

WW McKinney voiced her opinion of how she was being treated. Which she now admits was wrong. Delay has a history of blaming all his actions, stating his opinions as fact and blaming his legal mess on others. He has not even retracted his statements concerning Randy Cunningham, although he has plead guilty. To him he is still my friend and good guy.






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